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Where's the UI Designer?

Posted: Sat Jan 09 2021 7:24 pm
by badoink
Downloaded the CS binaries. Dived straight in to the installation folder. Failed to find QtCreator. Where is it, please?

Thanks!

Re: Where's the UI Designer?

Posted: Mon Jan 11 2021 7:37 am
by barbara
You can absolutely use QtCreator to develop your GUI user interface files or even write a CopperSpice application within the IDE. You simply need to download the program from the QtCreator project.

Please have a look at our CS Overview documentation for the set up instructions.

https://www.copperspice.com/docs/cs_overview/sample-toolchain.html

Let us know if you have questions.

Re: Where's the UI Designer?

Posted: Mon Jan 11 2021 6:42 pm
by badoink
Oh, I was hoping to break away completely from The Qt Company after their recent shenanigans :-(
Are you saying that the QtCreator still has to be downloaded from those (IMHO) "bad" guys?

Have you not considered making CS a completely separate project, with its own GUI designer, perhaps based on a stable version of the "bad guys''" UI designer?

Thanks Barbara,
Steve

Re: Where's the UI Designer?

Posted: Mon Jan 11 2021 8:54 pm
by barbara
Would our putting a copy of QtCreator on our download site for convenience help out?

What version would you consider to be a stable version?

Another idea is for us to release the UI Designer itself as a stand alone application, moved to CS. Would this be of value to CS users?

Barbara

Re: Where's the UI Designer?

Posted: Mon Jan 11 2021 11:09 pm
by janwilmans
badoink wrote: Mon Jan 11 2021 6:42 pm Oh, I was hoping to break away completely from The Qt Company after their recent shenanigans :-(
I use Visual studio Code to edit and use just the standalone QtCreator for GUI design. It is available here as a separate installer: http://download.qt.io/snapshots/qtcreator/4.14/4.14.1/370/

Greetings,

Jan

Re: Where's the UI Designer?

Posted: Tue Jan 12 2021 4:49 pm
by badoink
barbara wrote: Mon Jan 11 2021 8:54 pm Would our putting a copy of QtCreator on our download site for convenience help out?

What version would you consider to be a stable version?

Another idea is for us to release the UI Designer itself as a stand alone application, moved to CS. Would this be of value to CS users?

Barbara
For me, yes it would. For me to break away from "The Bad Guys", I would want a clean break; I suspect many others may feel the same.

Re: Where's the UI Designer?

Posted: Tue Jan 12 2021 10:02 pm
by barbara
For me, yes it would.
There were multiple options in my post, can you let me know which ones help you out. Keep in mind that licensing may prevent some options from being possible.

Thanks,

Barbara

Re: Where's the UI Designer?

Posted: Thu Jan 14 2021 5:55 pm
by badoink
Barbara. Thanks for your interest in my problem. Would love to see temporarily a version of Qt Creator we can download from here. In the future, A Creator actually made in CS (with source and binaries alike) would be ideal. We could perhaps use this, then, as the ultimate "sample project" to see how things are done canonically in CS.

Thanks!

Re: Where's the UI Designer?

Posted: Fri Jan 15 2021 1:45 am
by barbara
badoink wrote: Thu Jan 14 2021 5:55 pm Would love to see temporarily a version of Qt Creator we can download from here.
In the future, A Creator actually made in CS (with source and binaries alike) would be ideal.
This seems doable. I think the best option is to set up a git repo where we can redistribute QtCreator.

Since it is LGPL 2.1 we can migrate the Qt 5.6 UI Designer to CopperSpice.

Barbara

Re: Where's the UI Designer?

Posted: Fri Jan 15 2021 11:21 am
by CandL
Barbra .... not sure CS wants to be in the business of redistributing Qt Creator. But I do agree CS should make it easy to obtain.

Getting it directly from Qt now a days requires "registration"... which just seems to open the door to aggravation. Just trying to maintain social distancing ;)

Now I agree that the way to get Qt Creator may be different on each platform.

For example on Window 10 ... Chocolatey is supplying Qt Creator 4.13.3 ( https://chocolatey.org/packages/qtcreator , This package was approved as a trusted package on 22 Nov 2020.) Version 4.14 was released ~Dec 18 2020 so the Chocolatey package is not that far behind.

If this whole processes is well documented, does this fill the need?